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welp, lets continue hsn's greatest ot discussion over here...
nl east standings (as of june 24):
gnats 37-38 6.0 gb
fillies 36-40 7.5
muts 30-42 11.5
darlins 25-50 18.0
Ron Helmer: "Everyone says you should hate Purdue. I dont. I just feel sorry for them." I'm with Ron.
Born and raised in Atlanta. Let's do this.
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I cant wait to see the meltdown in this thread.
mkillian247 on twitter..... I say a lot of stuff you wont care about.
Where is Oba? Missing some key Braves' fans here!! Still living in the ATL area myself Zach
this sob weavers makes us jealous on a consistent basis with his turner field suite shenanigans. need obatskii, candystripeswag, maedhros and scooter to get with the program here. hopefully there's several braves fans here at inside indiana.
fyi, uplp = uplifting post loss pic.
the game just showed an infographic that said braves starters lead mlb in era this month. jschwag makin things happen as usual. drag bunt followed by a swiped bag. he's been on point with the drag bunt all season, and he's now 9-12 on sb. rest of the team is 20-36.
chris davis just launched his 28th mammo. 28. jesus.
This post was edited by BTJohnsonIU 10 months ago
My grandma who was a long time cards fan hated the braves but my mom loves the braves.
This post was edited by MrsBigMaxAttack 10 months ago
This is a new year. A new beginning. And things will change.
At some point Fredi realized that Simba's spot is as far away from the leadoff spot as possible, and if he can change, then I can change, we all can change to 247.
Yesterday's off day felt weird, especially after we played three games in 24 hours last Tuesday. I'm glad to be sitting here sipping a microbrewed IPA, watching my Braves beat up on the Braves Lite in KC.
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Yes, last week's marathon session from Monday night-through Wed was crazy....BT, I'll actually be back in the suite for the game and fireworks on the 4th!!
jschwag's killin it this year. needs starter playing time, somehow. heck he's our only leadoff hitter. this is the jschwag who scouts were projecting before his minor league suspension. somebody needs to teach bossman how to play 2b, then trade uggla for some vitamin waters.
jhey just went yicketty off of tim collins, who hadnt allowed a hr from a left-handed batter this year.
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Heyward had not homered against a left-handed pitcher in a span of 91 at-bats dating back to Sept. 7.
I see that from that beautiful picture of home. How I miss it.
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Since winning their first seven road games this year, the Braves have lost 23 of the past 36 games played outside of Atlanta.
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INF Ramiro Pena will have season-ending surgery on Thursday to repair the torn labrum in his right shoulder.
havent looked like a playoff team in a while. janish replaces pena. wont be anymore uplp's. cant copy & paste pics here.
need the uplps
Everyone, take a deep breath. I'm here!
I was on a mini vacation and just got home. Not sure about this new site just yet, but I'm sure about one thing; let's go Braves!
Oh you'll love all the same and great HSN personalities are here.
The Braves offense is struggling. The bats in the outfield need to step up and lead the offense as was intended.
Which ones were great? Haha
I wouldn't mind it, except it's much harder for me to browse at work than the old site. If I only have my webpage taking up half the screen (like I typically do when browsing), then I can't scroll over to read the other half like before. Oh well, I'll probably be more productive now.
Heyward's been a little better lately, but they all have plenty of room for improvement. We're still in first, but those 3 have been very disappointing thus far.
I'm still bullish on this team. The starting pitching's been terrific. The bullpen's done about as well as can be expected, considering injuries. The bats have been the big disappointment, but Bossman and J-Hey are showing signs of life. Their numbers on the season aren't ever going to be pretty, too much suck already on the books. But their performance in June has been much closer to their true talent levels. Beachy and Gattis are on the way back, and we have more home games than road games the rest of the way.
I'm with you Maedhros.....Honestly, we all knew the bats would be an issue prior to the season starting (well the averages and strikeouts). As long as the pitching keeps it up, I think we have a great shot of playing into October.
Should be an exciting night at the Ted this evening. Most importantly Atlanta will retire Chipper Jones' #10. However, Teheran also squares off against a player we recently traded in Randall Delgado. Lastly, it will be the homecoming of one of our own, Martin Prado.
This was always the problem during the Bobby Cox era...pitching to get the Braves to the post-season. Once they got there, they didn't have the bats to win it. The outfield bats need to seriously step it up...otherwise I say that Heyward is trade bait at the trade deadline.
It's tough not to feel that the Braves underachieved in the playoffs during their run, but I have a hard time with pointing to any one single factor and saying "this is why those teams failed". I mean, you're talking about very different teams over a 15 year period. The 2003 Braves easily led the National League with 5.60 runs per game. That wasn't enough to keep them from losing a best of five series to the Cubs. The 1993, 1997 and 1998 clubs were all third in the NL in runs scored; all lost the NLCS in six games. In fact, here's how the Braves have ranked in runs scored each year of their dynasty:
1991 - 2nd
1992 - 3rd
1993 - 3rd
1995 - 9th, when they won the World Series
1996 - 4th
1997 - 3rd
1998 - 3rd
1999 - 6th
2000 - 6th
2001 - 13th
2002 - 8th
2003 - 1st
2004 - 5th
2005 - 4th
The problem during the Bobby Cox era was that the postseason is a crapshoot. It takes 162 games to get into the playoffs, and just four games to exit. Starting last year, now it can take just one game. And all I need to say is "infield fly" to get across how fluky any one baseball game can be. The St Louis Cardinals went on to win the World Series that year, with a playoff spot that didn't even exist the year before. They also won the World Series in 2006, despite winning just 83 games in the regular season. They were barely a .500 ball club, yet they got a ring when multiple 100-win Braves teams didn't. Sometimes that's just how it goes.
On a more positive note, the link is already available for those who want to watch Chipper's ceremony this evening:
I know I'll be at my computer early tonight.
You make some good points...maybe that is just how I rememeber it...the pitching was always good enough to get us to the post season, but when they had to face the best teams/hitters night-in, night-out, they gave up more runs, but then the bats didn't come through in support.
I agree...that is just how it goes sometimes, especially in baseball, more so than any other sport.
There's no way Jason Heyward is trade bait. I would be SHOCKED beyond words if that happened.
thank you maedhros for the link and the greatest post this thread has ever seen. to add to that, the formula for winning a championship is great pitching, no costly errors and timely hitting. everybody's season restarts when the postseason begins, all records are 0-0. take a look at the previous world series champs, many didnt have a high octane offense but they were all efficient to compliment great pitching, and didnt let ridiculous errors give a game away. so many wild cards go on to win it all, teams that couldnt win their division but played well at the right time.
we arent a contending team right now. the pitching is the only area thats reliable. we have gold gloves at 1b, ss and rf, all other positions have looked shaky. metrics wouldnt suggest that as we rank third in the nl in defensive efficieny ratio. i dont think any of us who have been watching this season consistently can say we have a solid defense. the offense gives away so many outs, leading the nl with 8.9 k's per game, 704 strikeouts total, 44 more than the second most. we have the third worst avg in the nl with risp (.225) and risp with 2 outs (.189), although fourth best in the nl with a runner at 3rd and less than 2 outs (.357). seems like freeman and gattis are the only guys capitalizing in risp opportunities.
so in that formula of great pitching, solid defense and timely hitting, i'd say we suck in the latter two. we have the best bullpen era (2.74) and fourth best starter era (3.43) in mlb. the three starting rotations above us are all in the nl central. the pen only strengthens when we acquire a reliever at the deadline and i have a feeling beachy will move to the pen, gearrin and wood being replaced. wouldnt trust those two guys in the postseason.
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On the other board, I was keeping track of Simmons' DWAR as the season progressed. I just saw he's up to 3.0 on the year, which places him t-138th on the all-time single-season list.
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